Cherry red metal

nkuzmik · Post by **nkuzmik** » Mon May 09, 2011 2:49 pm

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I might go about mimicking that reddish orange glow of red hot steel?

CaptBillD · Post by **CaptBillD** » Mon May 09, 2011 3:19 pm

Base coat with Flat White, mist on an overspray of dayglow yellow, then succeeding layers of dayglow orange to red airbrushed as you work towards the corners of the object, keeping the parts closest to the "core" of the material the lightest color, and the edges the darkest.

Or just put a layer of mixed down Transparent Orange/Clear Dullcoat on over Flat White for smaller bits.

Molten material emits light, and cooler areas are darker or "backlit", so don't use any gloss finish. You want the reflected light to be even and bright from the "hot" surface, hence the matte paint.

If the surroundings/diorama are dark, lit by the glow of the hot steel, you might do shading and highlights as if the metal was a light source, and spray some more thinned Transparent Orange for color over the highlights closest to the heat.

Post by **TER-OR** » Mon May 09, 2011 7:54 pm

Do like the miniatures painters, many layers building to the color.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/233996
http://www.coolminiornot.com/103554
http://www.coolminiornot.com/42876
http://www.coolminiornot.com/177196
http://www.coolminiornot.com/129820

and then there's this:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/22939

Beaveranger · Post by **Beaveranger** » Mon May 09, 2011 10:56 pm

TER-OR wrote:Do like the miniatures painters, many layers building to the color.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/233996
http://www.coolminiornot.com/103554
http://www.coolminiornot.com/42876
http://www.coolminiornot.com/177196
http://www.coolminiornot.com/129820

and then there's this:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/22939

WOW.... I am forever humbled.

CaptBillD · Post by **CaptBillD** » Tue May 10, 2011 1:35 pm

Thanks, TER-OR, great pics! That shows exactly the idea I was trying to describe!

Mark Yungblut · Post by **Mark Yungblut** » Tue May 10, 2011 2:55 pm

Here is one more great example.

http://coolminiornot.com/pics/pics5/img ... caae78.jpg

If you go to Coolminiornot.com look up the painting articles there used to be a great one that showed how to paint flames etc...

Post by **TER-OR** » Tue May 10, 2011 8:44 pm

Mark, that's one I remember as the first truly outstanding lighting effect miniature. I've seen lanterns, "magic missiles" and such since.

Yeah, it's humbling. I know these people do this as a primary hobby so they get really good at it. Still, it's phenomenal.

G-man · Post by **G-man** » Tue May 10, 2011 8:48 pm

so..are those airbrushed or hand painted?..i know alot of those builds on cool mini or not are in the quarter and half dollar range, so..i'd hat eto think a person could airbrush that...but...

G-man

Post by **TER-OR** » Tue May 10, 2011 9:06 pm

Almost exclusively hand-brushed.

it's about thinning to transparency and layering so on and so on. Also about understanding color theory and making it work for you.

How they thin:
http://www.reapermini.com/TheCraft/15

Mr. Badwrench · Post by **Mr. Badwrench** » Wed May 11, 2011 5:46 am

That's a great article Ter, thanks!

nkuzmik · Post by **nkuzmik** » Mon May 16, 2011 6:42 pm

TER-OR wrote:Do like the miniatures painters, many layers building to the color.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/233996
http://www.coolminiornot.com/103554
http://www.coolminiornot.com/42876
http://www.coolminiornot.com/177196
http://www.coolminiornot.com/129820

and then there's this:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/22939

Well, if I wasn't a little nervous about trying this glowing metal thing before, I am now.

Mr. Badwrench · Post by **Mr. Badwrench** » Sun May 22, 2011 2:49 am

But you're going to do it anyway, right?

Lt. Z0mBe · Post by **Lt. Z0mBe** » Sun May 22, 2011 9:45 pm

nkuzmik wrote:
TER-OR wrote:Do like the miniatures painters, many layers building to the color.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/233996
http://www.coolminiornot.com/103554
http://www.coolminiornot.com/42876
http://www.coolminiornot.com/177196
http://www.coolminiornot.com/129820

and then there's this:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/22939
Well, if I wasn't a little nervous about trying this glowing metal thing before, I am now.

Try it. Screw up. Get better. Try again. Screw up less. Try more. Get a bit better. Screw up even less. After just a few tries, we'll be humbled by you.

Kenny

nkuzmik · Post by **nkuzmik** » Wed May 25, 2011 9:55 am

Oh, yeah, I'm still gonna try it.

My timeline is fairly long on this project. I don't even expect to have the actual kits until early August, nor have them ready for this stage of painting until early September.

nkuzmik · Post by **nkuzmik** » Wed May 25, 2011 5:21 pm

CaptBillD wrote:Base coat with Flat White, mist on an overspray of dayglow yellow, then succeeding layers of dayglow orange to red airbrushed as you work towards the corners of the object, keeping the parts closest to the "core" of the material the lightest color, and the edges the darkest.

Or just put a layer of mixed down Transparent Orange/Clear Dullcoat on over Flat White for smaller bits.

Molten material emits light, and cooler areas are darker or "backlit", so don't use any gloss finish. You want the reflected light to be even and bright from the "hot" surface, hence the matte paint.

If the surroundings/diorama are dark, lit by the glow of the hot steel, you might do shading and highlights as if the metal was a light source, and spray some more thinned Transparent Orange for color over the highlights closest to the heat.

My experience with real metal is that if a part is white hot, it is throwing off a lot of light. Wouldn't you want to use glosses or maybe some reflectiive paint to mimic the light coming off?

http://www.homedepot.com/buy/paint/spra ... 98374.html

Mr. Badwrench · Post by **Mr. Badwrench** » Thu May 26, 2011 4:01 am

Flat paints look brighter than gloss paints for the same reason that snow is brighter than water. Flat colors refract and scatter light whereas gloss colors merely reflect it. As a result, a model painted with bright, flat colors, if done correctly, will look as if the light is coming from within.