Styrene cements and construction

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Bar wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:53 pm
Mr. Badwrench wrote:Tenax and Ambroid are almost exactly the same. The active ingredient is methylene chloride.
I have heard this before. Is this the entire mix,or is there another ingredient?
I recall once reading that there was a certain chemical you could buy in gallon containers, and it would last forever as a styrene cement.
I thought i'd post this here for info.
I go through a lot of polystyrene cement, and i'm looking for a mix i can brush on when building up many layers in a short time.
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I have not seen Ambroid or Tenax in ages.
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Plexiglas or Acrylic cement is about the same thing. My West Coast source is TAP Plastics.
https://www.tapplastics.com/product/rep ... XIQAvD_BwE
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You still need MEK to weld ABS together and California EPA dropped that solvent a long time ago.
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MEK has it's uses, but it is nasty stuff and stinks. Clear PVC primer is about 70% MEK and is available all over.
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mike robel wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 6:00 pm I have not seen Ambroid or Tenax in ages.
The makers of Styrene Tack-It II claim that's it's reverse-engineered from Tenax; i.e, the same stuff. Smells about the same.
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Now we have plastic that is said to conduct electricity
https://phys.org/news/2022-10-scientist ... metal.html

This goes against all of the rules we know about for conductivity—to a scientist, it's kind of like seeing a car driving on water and still going 70 mph. But the finding could also be extraordinarily useful; if you want to invent something revolutionary, the process often first starts with discovering a completely new material.

"In principle, this opens up the design of a whole new class of materials that conduct electricity, are easy to shape, and are very robust in everyday conditions," said John Anderson, an associate professor of chemistry at the University of Chicago and the senior author on the study. "Essentially, it suggests new possibilities for an extremely important technological group of materials," said Jiaze Xie (Ph.D. '22, now at Princeton), the first author on the paper.

'There isn't a solid theory to explain this'


More conventional--
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publiusr wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:51 pm Now we have plastic that is said to conduct electricity
https://phys.org/news/2022-10-scientist ... metal.html
Interesting stuff indeed.
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More in the same vein

Looks like PVC plastic has been conquered:
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Now, University of Michigan researchers, led by study first author Danielle Fagnani and principal investigator Anne McNeil, have discovered a way to chemically recycle PVC into usable material. The most fortuitous part of the study? The researchers found a way to use the phthalates in the plasticizers—one of PVC's most noxious components—as the mediator for the chemical reaction. Their results are published in the journal Nature Chemistry.


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Here is a biggie----superglue can be a plastic:
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I backtracked the thread and there appears to be no real mention of this, although some people do mention their love (or is it just like?) of tamiya thin. I've seen a couple of videos promoting the use of tamiya's airbrush cleaner instead. Chemically there's only around a 2% difference between one and the other...i.e. a ratio of 51% to 49% butyl acetate to acetone or vice versa depending on which product you are talking about. Reviews seem to show the cleaner works pretty much as well as cement except tamiya's airbrush cleaner is way cheaper by volume than their cement.

I'd put a link, but quite frankly a quick youtube search for tamiya airbrush cleaner cement will bring up several videos on the subject.
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Plastics
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