Best way to trap light inside a model is...

Ask and answer questions, share tips and resources for installing lighting and other electronics in your models.

Moderators: Sparky, Moderators

Post Reply
Antenociti
Posts: 565
Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:43 pm
Location: Shrewsbury, UK
Contact:

Best way to trap light inside a model is...

Post by Antenociti »

What's the best way to trap LED light inside a cavity within a model - both so as to allow the trapped light to be piped out via short Fibre to the surface and thus reflect as much of it as possible back into the cavity and also B) to prevent light leaking through the plastic of a model?

I'm thinking its a toss-up between white and silver/reflective/metalic, but which is better?
jwrjr

Post by jwrjr »

I prefer an undercoat or 2 of any metallic paint (preferably chrome silver) and then enough coats to cover of FLAT white.
Madman Lighting
Posts: 1818
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:16 am
Location: Serenity.
Contact:

Post by Madman Lighting »

That actually sounds good.

My technique is a thick coat of flat black as a light block, overcoated with a metalic aluminum although I"ve been told that white is better because its more like the insides of ships than is silver/aluminum.
That Madman Who Lit Up Deep Space Nine
User avatar
Kylwell
Moderator
Posts: 29650
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2003 9:25 pm
Location: Lakewood, CO
Contact:

Post by Kylwell »

Silver paint actually reflects less light than white paint. White paint also diffuses the light better. Becuase silver paint is composed of little tiny flakes of reflective material the light can (and will) get trapped in the paint itself. Stick with white with a nice coat of black underneath.
Abolish Alliteration
User avatar
karim
Posts: 4255
Joined: Fri Jul 12, 2002 4:51 pm
Location: NC
Contact:

Post by karim »

A coat of Black paint, with a heavy coat of White paint over it.
DMAUL
Posts: 144
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:17 am
Location: Texas

Post by DMAUL »

Are the LEDs only used to light the FO? If so, I've used heat shrink tubing slipped over the LEDs. Slid the FO inside the tubing right up to the LED and zapped it with a little heat. Everything nice and snug and no light escapes.
Antenociti
Posts: 565
Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:43 pm
Location: Shrewsbury, UK
Contact:

Post by Antenociti »

Maul - yeah in this case I want to flood a compartment with light deliberately (its the exhaust pod at the end of a B5 Starfury wing) rather than trying to feed each exhaust with individual light.

Cheers all, sounds like black followed by white is the way to go.
User avatar
Jagdson
Posts: 8738
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2002 8:27 pm
Location: Hunched over my keyboard like a *pothoc* vulture, cursing my inability to properly budget my time.

Post by Jagdson »

Supercool the model and turn the gas inside into a Bose-Einstein condensate.
Science created airplanes and skyscrapers, but it took faith to bring them together.

Trust me. I'm a priest.
User avatar
Kylwell
Moderator
Posts: 29650
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2003 9:25 pm
Location: Lakewood, CO
Contact:

Post by Kylwell »

Jagdson wrote:Supercool the model and turn the gas inside into a Bose-Einstein condensate.
I sit here laughing and trying to type.

Sure, you make it sound so easy. Wonder where I can buy a Super Deep Freezer.
Abolish Alliteration
User avatar
Less Than Super Ostrich
Posts: 2014
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2003 2:18 pm
Location: Chicago, IL

Post by Less Than Super Ostrich »

And then hook it up to the flux capacitor.
On the sixth day, God created man... primarily out of Aves Apoxie Sculpt and other greeblies found around his hobby room.
User avatar
Bar
Posts: 15149
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:36 pm
Location: Scotland. Not part of the UK apparently...
Contact:

Re: Best way to trap light inside a model is...

Post by Bar »

Antenociti wrote:What's the best way to trap LED light inside a cavity within a model?
What i do is this:
Leave the model out in the open(Where it can be viewed easily). Make sure there is an opening in the model(To let the light in).
You must fashion a crude cage-like device around the opening that can be activated remotely by yourself, either on command, or at a pre-selected time.
Then put in some bait(Cheese is good, or maybe a small piece of chocolate), and wait. When you are sure you have tempted some light into your model, trip the cage and: Hey Presto! You have trapped some light...







White paint works too...
Bar.
I must retire to my couch of perpetual indulgence...
Captain Jack Sparrow wrote:Guard the boat, Mind the tide... Don't touch my dirt...
vipermark7@googlemail.com
User avatar
rpauly
Posts: 3428
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:47 am
Location: Home of the Mountaineers
Contact:

Post by rpauly »

[Elmer Fudd]Be vewy, vewy quiet...We'we hunting wight....hehhehhehheh...[/Elmer Fudd] 8)
Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.
- Robert Heinlein
dekesdragon
Posts: 554
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2003 2:18 pm

Post by dekesdragon »

:lol:
have a heart traps for photons available at local feed and seed store...

the black undercoat and white paint is good

I have used a plain white paper mask with printed details on the visible side for a model (the 1/48 scale defiant shuttle I scratchbuilt,
used this mask technique for the front deflector dish layout)

Don't know it that is of use....the paper helps to 'mask' a single point source of light such as a light bulb but not light piping, the difference being
how the light radiates spherical vs linear
BETTER GOVERNMENT THROUGH OPPRESSION
Do I get a fish biscuit?
Heenz Meenz Beenz
Post Reply