Hydrogen dioxide?

Rogviler · Post by **Rogviler** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:42 am

In one of the new entries in the BSG contest (the Ovion Warrior), says:

The Ovion Warrior was airbrushed with craft-store acrylics thinned with Future Floor Polish, Windex and hydrogen dioxide.

I definitely get the Future, somewhat get the Windex, but haven't heard of using hydrogen dioxide, which comes up as also being called hydrogen peroxide (the stuff for cleaning out cuts).

A search turned up nothing.

So what cool thing does this do that I'm missing out on?

-Rog

Pat Amaral · Post by **Pat Amaral** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:15 am

I think he meant water (H2O). I believe the Windex is to cut the surface tension and make it all flow better. I could be wrong.

Rogviler · Post by **Rogviler** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:53 am

I'm going to be irritated if it was some cute way of saying "water", since that would be dihydrogen oxide (or monoxide)...

I was trying to figure out what hydrogen peroxide would do. Obviously it would fizz but also oxygenate the paint, which would...well, that's all the farther I got.

If I was home I would try it just for kicks to see if it actually does something or not.

I might try it tomorrow. If something bad happens you likely won't be hearing from me.

-Rog

EDIT: I do know that mixing ammonia (such as the Windex) with hydrogen peroxide creates a reaction that's commonly used for cleaning stains. So, maybe that's how one would get a good "clean finish"?

photoguy · Post by **photoguy** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:30 am

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Hydrogen PERoxide. I have heard of that being used as a thinner for acrylics that are not alcohol based like the Tamiya.

Hydrogen Dioxide is the gas that we exhale, and plants "inhale". Not very useful for painting in liquid form - waaaay too cold.

seam-filler · Post by **seam-filler** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:22 am

photoguy wrote:Hydrogen Dioxide is the gas that we exhale, and plants "inhale". Not very useful for painting in liquid form - waaaay too cold.

I think you mean Carbon Dioxide.

Hydrogen Dioxide, H2O2, on the other hand is a thick, colorless liquid, resembling water, but having a bitter, sour taste, produced by the action of acids on barium peroxide. It decomposes into water and oxygen, and is manufactured in large quantities for an oxidizing and bleaching agent. Also known as "oxygenated water", and more usually "hydrogen peroxide", or "peroxide" in weak solutions used as an antiseptic.

photoguy · Post by **photoguy** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:25 am

Yep. You're right. I guess it would be pretty bad to start exhaling Hydrogen Dioxide.

1. Opening mouth
2. Inserting foot

seam-filler · Post by **seam-filler** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:26 am

It would sure cure bad breath, though!

Pat Amaral · Post by **Pat Amaral** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:29 am

I'm definately no expert here but this whole mixture seems counterintuitive to me. I use Windex to strip Future when things don't go as planned. I understand the benefits of using Windex to encourage acrylic paint to flow better from an airbrush and I'm assuming he would have used a very small amount in this concoction but it still has me scratching my head. I can see using a small amount of distilled water as a thinning agent for Acrylics but whatever this "hydrogen dioxide" is, it sounds like it would somehow contaminate the mixture.

Kylwell · Post by **Kylwell** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:16 pm

I'm sure he meant DHMO, a long running joke.

Lt. Z0mBe · Post by **Lt. Z0mBe** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:56 pm

Kylwell wrote:I'm sure he meant DHMO, a long running joke.

That could be the best thing I have ever read. Ever.

Kenny

Rogviler · Post by **Rogviler** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:25 pm

Well, I guess we'll have to wait until the contest ends and see what he or she really meant.

It'll go something like...

If Water joke: Fail.

If Hydrogen peroxide: input WTF?

-Rog