Hey, gang, just had a really weird experience. I was trying some alcohol-based ink as a wash on some Tamiya and Gunze acrylics, and suddenly, the paints were lifting right off the parts.
What did I do wrong? The paints had been cured for several weeks (hey, I'm slow...sue me! ) Should I have Futured the parts first? Or, do I have to go against my newly-green(ish) trends, and shoot the parts with Testor's clear gloss?
Sign me, "Confused"
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Putting a coat of Future on before doing a wash is always a good idea. Pretty much the only thing that really takes it off is ammonia, so it holds up to other solvents pretty well usually.
Alcohol (the rubbing/isopropyl kind) will remove Future as well, if the inks are thinned with this type they'll either eat through it or eat into it enough to permanently stain/mix with it.
Either you'll need to coat the acrylics with something that the alcohol based inks won't affect, or use water based inks.
The alcohol acted as a thinner and effected the Tamiya paint. I would suggest a laquer based clear coat before washing with thinned inks like that. Or try using an oil wash instead.
Mark
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Good suggestion, Mark, but I'm trying to get away from lacquers, and oils.
2 questions:
1) Can anybody recommend a line of water-based inks? I have some Dr. Ph. Martin's inks and some alcohol-based stamping inks (the name eludes me). Since they are alcohol-based, that ain't gonna work
B) Would water-based oils work the same, or am I going to run into other problems?
And actually, Jimi, "Confused" is my normal state. This would qualify as, "baffled"!
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I've used Liquitex inks over Tamiya acrylic paint with very nice results. It also thins very nicely with Liquitex or Createx airbrush medium and runs through an airbrush very nicely.
Cool, PG, I'll have to check them out. I think Hobby Lobby has Liquitex inks.
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'Russia Space Agency. My name Peggy. Have problem?'
As well a Liquitex, Daler Rowney do acrylc inks. I've never had a problem with these and Tamiya paints.
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Just beware of one thing about artist's inks. Many of them are not light fast or will change color if exposed to bright light for protracted lengths of time.
Cheers,
Mark
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Looks like I'm on the search for Daler-Rowney inks, then...
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Anybody used the Liquitex acrylic inks? They seem to have a huge variety, and I know I've seen them at Hobby Lobby.
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Okay, Ter. I have a tube of Payne's gray, and I think burnt umber and Vandyke brown. I have the Flo-Aid. Gonna have to get some Slo-Dri.
Any other watercolors you'd recommend?
Anybody interested in some alcohol-based inks, see me at WF...
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Other colors are only required for special purposes. I bought a 6-pack of inks and a multi pack of transparent watercolors a few years back. They'll last a long time....
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Tamiya is particularly sensitive, I find. The stuff would lift off whereas if I used Vallejo or Model Master, it'll be fine. Definitely I think it's the alcohol solvent in the ink. I've used FW inks over acrylics with no problem. But then again, I like to seal with Dullcoat between steps.
I can agree with using Windex as a stripper. Dropped the figure in a tub of Windex, and a day later, no paint!
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'Russia Space Agency. My name Peggy. Have problem?'
) Should I have Futured the parts first? Or, do I have to go against my newly-green(ish) trends, and shoot the parts with Testor's clear gloss?
