Where can I find blueprints for rare ships?

Jokkocze · Post by **Jokkocze** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:26 am

Hi, new member here (first post!)

I've been thinking of building a model from scratch (My first one) for some time now, but I havent been able to decide what I want to do. Until now.

I'm currently playing through SW: Knights of the old republic 1 and 2, and I've always been a big fan of the Ebon Hawk, so I thought that I could try that out.
Question is, where can I get blueprints for such a project?

Joseph C. Brown · Post by **Joseph C. Brown** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:09 am

If you go to Google Images and type in: Ebon Hawk, that should bring up some reference images.

Jokkocze · Post by **Jokkocze** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:40 am

Joseph C. Brown wrote:If you go to Google Images and type in: Ebon Hawk, that should bring up some reference images.

I've googled a bit, and I've got to say that there isnt really alot to use. Everything's either small or not very helpful.

Also, it never hurts to ask, right?

Kylwell · Post by **Kylwell** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:30 pm

Sometimes there just aren't any. Which is where having the Model Design & Blueprinting Handbook: Volume 1 is handy.

Jokkocze · Post by **Jokkocze** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:05 pm

Kylwell wrote:Sometimes there just aren't any. Which is where having the Model Design & Blueprinting Handbook: Volume 1 is handy.

That does seem quite handy, unfortunately:

Due to a tremendous response, the first printing of this book sold out quickly. We would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for the incredible response! Because of the excitement surrounding this title, our retailers are also sold out. (All "scratch 'n dent" copies are also gone.)

And it's not avalible at the local library.

Other ideas?

Kylwell · Post by **Kylwell** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:11 pm

Plead with someone to borrow it?

Check the inter-library loan program?

Bug Charles (the author who's here sometimes) to print a second (third?) run.

USS Atlantis · Post by **USS Atlantis** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:12 pm

Jokkocze wrote:
Kylwell wrote:Sometimes there just aren't any. Which is where having the Model Design & Blueprinting Handbook: Volume 1 is handy.
That does seem quite handy, unfortunately:
Due to a tremendous response, the first printing of this book sold out quickly. We would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for the incredible response! Because of the excitement surrounding this title, our retailers are also sold out. (All "scratch 'n dent" copies are also gone.)
And it's not avalible at the local library.

Not the type of thing a public library normally would carry - trust me, my sister is a librarian (B.S. Library Sciences)

Jokkocze wrote:Other ideas?

If enough people ask Charles, maybe he'll make it available as a downloadable PDF for a nominal fee

USS Atlantis · Post by **USS Atlantis** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:13 pm

Kylwell wrote:Plead with someone to borrow it?

Check the inter-library loan program?

See my post right after yours

Kylwell wrote:Bug Charles (the author who's here sometimes) to print a second (third?) run.

From his site

We plan to reprint this book as soon as possible. Due to economic uncertainty, however, that effort is temporarily on hold.

Jokkocze · Post by **Jokkocze** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:21 pm

Woah, seems like everyone over there is starting to wake up now!

I dont really know anyone who's into modelling, especially not from scratch, and most people here on ssm seems to be in the us or so, but if there's anyone out there who's ready to loan their copy of that book to a total stranger half way around earth, you're welcome to contact me!

I've found someone who's built one, but I'm not sure if he's willing to share his blueprints. It's worth a shot tho!

Joseph C. Brown · Post by **Joseph C. Brown** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:57 pm

Have you seen this one?

http://www.starwarsmodels.com/ebonhawk.html

Jokkocze · Post by **Jokkocze** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:34 pm

Joseph C. Brown wrote:Have you seen this one?

http://www.starwarsmodels.com/ebonhawk.html

Yeah, that's the guy I mailed, still havent gotten any awnser tho..

Tracker · Post by **Tracker** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:59 pm

I've been trying to get that book for some time now myself. No luck. I even went to some of the local used book stores and dug around there. If another print run is done I'm definitely up for one.

Squall67584 · Post by **Squall67584** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:28 pm

I went through the same thing while I was in the planning stage for building my YT-2400. The easiest way I can say for blueprinting would be to find a good overhead birds eye view of the ship. If you can find a copy of the Prima Official strategy guide for the game, I believe they had a large picture of the ship. From that, and possible other pictures which are on the internet, you then pick whatever scale you want it to be in (I went for 1/72) and then draw it out on a large piece of paper (I used a large newspaper print drawing pad) in scale.

When drawing it out in 2D, just draw the basic outline. Since the Ebon Hawk is a semi circle (from what I remember), find out the diameter then use a compass to draw it out. From there, you can draw the other parts of the ship (the blocky cockpit area, the two side arm things, and the engine tubes. I'd draw just the outlines of them and label all the dimensions. Then do the same thing for a profile shot from the front, rear, and sides. Then from there, take those and turn them into 3D... easier said than done, of course. Best way to learn how to do this is to look up a few scratchbuilds of the Falcon, or at least that was where i got most of the ideas. You could also look up plank and frame techniques, or other techniques that are out there.

Hopefully I didn't confuse anyone with that rather disastrous explanation...

Old Wombat · Post by **Old Wombat** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:54 am

You might want to try Lasse Henning ("StarWars Scratchbuilder" on this site), he lives in your neck of the woods! Well, Norway, at least.

Or you could try his website.

Lichtbringer · Post by **Lichtbringer** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:18 pm

If you give me your email-address, i can sent you 12,6mb you might find very helpfull.

Jokkocze · Post by **Jokkocze** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:39 am

starwarsmodels.com seems to be dead, the last update was 01/20/08. Does anyone know if the guy is still alive? Or has he just taken out his vacation?

Lichtbringer wrote:If you give me your email-address, i can sent you 12,6mb you might find very helpfull.

Thanks mate, I'm sure that it'll come in handy.

MillenniumFalsehood · Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:48 pm

If you're that desperate for an Ebon Hawk, why not just download the free paper model and use it for templates? I'm sure I have a copy on my hard drive.

EDIT: Found it. Do you want a link to the PDF?

Jokkocze · Post by **Jokkocze** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:21 am

MillenniumFalsehood wrote:If you're that desperate for an Ebon Hawk, why not just download the free paper model and use it for templates? I'm sure I have a copy on my hard drive.

EDIT: Found it. Do you want a link to the PDF?

I had them lying around and Lichtbringer mailed me them, so I have them. They dont really work for making the whole model, but they do probably work for helping me getting a whole picture of the thing.
I'm not really in a hurry, I'm between flats and I cant build anything right now anyway, just preparing..

Old Wombat · Post by **Old Wombat** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:04 am

This is Lasse's last thread here.

You might try to PM him & see if he responds.

Jokkocze · Post by **Jokkocze** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:03 pm

Old Wombat wrote:This is Lasse's last thread here.

You might try to PM him & see if he responds.

He aint the one I'm after, however, I've contacted him, asking for tips on what you should get in preperation of a scratchbuild.

Jokkocze · Post by **Jokkocze** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:29 am

I've gotten my hands on a 3d-model of the ebon hawk!

Shinnentai · Post by **Shinnentai** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:05 pm

I was wondering- since it's a PC game, is there any chance the in-game CG model can be extracted? Sometimes you can do that, depending on what 3D format the game designers used.

IIRC there was a guy here who was scratchbuilding models of the Halo spaceships by extracting the in-game CG model and converting it to templates.

You say you got ahold of a CG model of the Ebon Hawk. Is it the game model, or a fan made mesh?

Jokkocze · Post by **Jokkocze** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:46 am

Shinnentai wrote:I was wondering- since it's a PC game, is there any chance the in-game CG model can be extracted? Sometimes you can do that, depending on what 3D format the game designers used.

IIRC there was a guy here who was scratchbuilding models of the Halo spaceships by extracting the in-game CG model and converting it to templates.

You say you got ahold of a CG model of the Ebon Hawk. Is it the game model, or a fan made mesh?

It's the CG model, modified a tiny bit.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:07 pm

Colonial Chrome has some good images of star wars ships. If you can put up with his jerkwad attitude.
http://www.colonialchrome.co.uk/Ships/U ... _Hawk.html

star-art · Post by **star-art** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:41 am

For those interested in getting my book, it will be back in print before you know it. A pre-order offer for the new Second Edition has just been posted!

http://www.ModelersNotebook.com

Jades Dark Heart · Post by **Jades Dark Heart** » Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:07 pm

star-art wrote:For those interested in getting my book, it will be back in print before you know it. A pre-order offer for the new Second Edition has just been posted!

http://www.ModelersNotebook.com

Buy it!!! I keep mine at work so I can read it when I am between projects. Great resource.

Greg

star-art · Post by **star-art** » Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:24 pm

Thanks!!