Future as setting solution

[Glorfindel]

Reading up on laying decals down I came across a method where guys are watering down Future, perhaps 1:1 ratio, then brushing that on the model where the decal would go. Once the decal is ready it is placed onto the wet Future. When that dries then more Future is AB on top. Any body try this method here? It calls for no use of Sol or Set.

[Kylwell]

It work for smooth, regular surfaces with thin decals. Anything convoluted or thick decals and the decal won't conform to the surface.

[Kekker]

Yes. It works pretty well. The Future dries and sucks the decal down. Personally I thin it a little with water, about 50/50. This will reduce any edge between the puddle and the surroundings.

Definitely no setting/sol solutions - they can interact with the Future and make it clot or worse, solidify and turn white (been there!).

The second coat (the next day) helps seal it in and blend it with the paint. I use an overall coat followed by the flat.

I don't always use this method, but it works pretty well and I almost never get silvering.

Kev

[Harry Joy]

It work for smooth, regular surfaces with thin decals. Anything convoluted or thick decals and the decal won't conform to the surface.

Not correct. Take a look at this mid-60s Monogram Helldiver I made last year, using 40 year old decals from the box. The decals were affixed with non-thinned Future. The decals were loosened with water, Future was brushed on the model where the decal was to go, then Future was brushed over them. You've got to let them then sit overnight - don't touch them for 24 hours. They will look like hell at first, then snuggle up tight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/ ... rc5-1h.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/ ... rc5-1i.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/ ... rc5-1j.jpg

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[Mr. Badwrench]

That worked pretty well Harry. I would expect those old, thick panel lines to cause trouble, but the pics clearly show that the decals snugged down nicely over them. I've always been afraid to try this method, but I may give it a shot.

[Kylwell]

My issue has been with (truely) thick decals and compound curved surfaces. Admittedly my history with Future as a decal setting solution are minimal but that's both what I've read and experienced. Microsol & Microset work jest fine for me.

[Big Game Nerd]

Future works great for me. I have always had great luck with it. I do thin it 50/50 myself. Also, I let it completely dry before putting decals over it, then apply more future once the decals have totally set.

[Lt. Z0mBe]

Reading up on laying decals down I came across a method where guys are watering down Future, perhaps 1:1 ratio, then brushing that on the model where the decal would go. Once the decal is ready it is placed onto the wet Future. When that dries then more Future is AB on top. Any body try this method here? It calls for no use of Sol or Set.

It's the only way I go. The exception is, of course, ridiculously textured surfaces. In those instances, the Future can't pull down strongly enough. and leaves a bubble. It's an easy fix on a flat area, but not in curvy places.

That's how I applied the ordnance stripes around 1/72 AMRAAM's the other night. Talk about tiny. But, the Future did the job. The TRICK to the method is you need to be doing this over an already cured coat of Future, so that as the decal Future dries, it "melts" down on the existing coat, taking the decal with it.

I hope this helps.

Kenny

[Glorfindel]

I just tried the 50/50 wet Future as a setting solution and I found it to be pretty much equally as effective as Micro Sol/Set. It's an additional technique that's good to know.

[The Arbiter]

It work for smooth, regular surfaces with thin decals. Anything convoluted or thick decals and the decal won't conform to the surface.

Not correct. Take a look at this mid-60s Monogram Helldiver I made last year, using 40 year old decals from the box. The decals were affixed with non-thinned Future. The decals were loosened with water, Future was brushed on the model where the decal was to go, then Future was brushed over them. You've got to let them then sit overnight - don't touch them for 24 hours. They will look like hell at first, then snuggle up tight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/ ... rc5-1h.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/ ... rc5-1i.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/ ... rc5-1j.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/ ... rc5-1g.jpg

Very cool, I had that exact same model back in the mid 70's.