What is best to use for panel lines?

[muir318]

Hello guys

Whats the best way to make à Water based wash?
Also looking for the best way to make à wash for panel lines?
Thanks in advance for all answers

[Fokker Ace]

Artists water colors can be used to make a wash, or really any water based paint. The trick is getting them to flow correctly and thinning them to the correct consistency.

I'm not sure what difference you mean by a wash for panel lines, but the easy thing to do would be, if working with acrylics on your models, is to seal with a gloss coat (like Future floor wax) and then use a ready-made wash (like one from the Mig brand). I know Mig products are available in Europe and I believe Future may be called Kleer (check spelling) there. you can also make oil washes with oil paint thinned with turpenoid, some Liquin to help it flow and a drop of dish soap to make it easy to remove the excess. But the ready-made is good stuff and lasts a long time.

If you go to YouTube you will find many videos to learn from.

[Kylwell]

As discussed here: http://www.starshipmodeler.net/talk/vie ... hp?t=15835 you can use watercolor paints with a bit of surfactant or you can try for a sludge wash using pastel powder mixed with some water.

[Glorfindel]

Oil, water-based, pastel...all three work great. All are easy to wipe away and clean if you think you've made a mistake. I like how quick the pastel dries but I don't know if that's enough to give that technique the edge. Try them all and decide for yourself.

[Scott Hasty]

I've done them all and the oil/turpenoid wash is the best, hands down.

[southwestforests]

Also looking for the best way to make à wash for panel lines?

If the goal is to have a wash settle in to engraved panel lines it is a good idea to apply that wash over gloss paint or a gloss coat over matte paint because on matte paint the wash will settle in to the miniature-sandpaper-like surface texture of the matte paint. Over gloss it will better flow in to panel line engravings (assuming they are not filled by paint or the gloss coat) and also be easier to wipe up from where not wanted on surface paint.

[dizzyfugu]

Also looking for the best way to make à wash for panel lines?

If the goal is to have a wash settle in to engraved panel lines it is a good idea to apply that wash over gloss paint or a gloss coat over matte paint because on matte paint the wash will settle in to the miniature-sandpaper-like surface texture of the matte paint. Over gloss it will better flow in to panel line engravings (assuming they are not filled by paint or the gloss coat) and also be easier to wipe up from where not wanted on surface paint.

Totally agree. That's especially important for the later look of the model. On a matte surface, lots of wash pigments will cling to the surface recesses, making the kit look rather worn and dirty. This can be intended, but esp. in small scales the effect is easily too much - it is IMHO great for anything bigger than 1:72, or for ground use vehicles. But on more delicate things like planes or space type vehicles, rather use a glossy color under the wash, which will reduce the pigment residue and help keeping the wash inside of the panel engravings.

[tonyG2]

To be honest I prefer to use something like a Gundam fine line pen and then remove the excess with a Q Tip and isopropyl alcohol..

[TER-OR]

You can also pen them in with a drafting/micron pen then overpaint with a weathering layer. Easy for major panel lines, but it doesn't work too well with access panels etc. which are usually finer.

[Wug]

I've never tried it but there's also the sludge wash.

http://www.swannysmodels.com/Weathering.html

Mike

[Kylwell]

I've never tried it but there's also the sludge wash.

http://www.swannysmodels.com/Weathering.html

Mike

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