Resin Kits -- Recommend a Good Primer?
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Resin Kits -- Recommend a Good Primer?
Hello Jedi Masters,
I have a question about resin kits and primers. I recently bought my first resin model kit, only to realize I know beans about painting resin. I’ve been reading up on this online, and there’s a lot of conflicting information out there. So I figured it couldn’t hurt to solicit some opinions from you folks.
Question The First: What primer would you recommend? Everyone agrees you need to start resin with a primer. Ideally, I’d like a good spray primer… mostly because I’m lazy.
Question The Second: Do I have to buy new paints? My current paints come in three categories:
*** For spray paints, I like Tamiya Color Spray Paint (Acrylic)
*** For bottled paints, I prefer Testor’ Enamel, the standard ¼ oz bottle sizes
*** I also use 17 ml Vallejo Acrylic paints if I have to fix and blend colors on the model.
I’m assuming once I get a good primer layer on my resin kit, I’m good to go with the paints I already have. Is that a bad assumption? Do I need to buy a whole new set of paints for resin painting?
Many, many thanks!
-RAO
I have a question about resin kits and primers. I recently bought my first resin model kit, only to realize I know beans about painting resin. I’ve been reading up on this online, and there’s a lot of conflicting information out there. So I figured it couldn’t hurt to solicit some opinions from you folks.
Question The First: What primer would you recommend? Everyone agrees you need to start resin with a primer. Ideally, I’d like a good spray primer… mostly because I’m lazy.
Question The Second: Do I have to buy new paints? My current paints come in three categories:
*** For spray paints, I like Tamiya Color Spray Paint (Acrylic)
*** For bottled paints, I prefer Testor’ Enamel, the standard ¼ oz bottle sizes
*** I also use 17 ml Vallejo Acrylic paints if I have to fix and blend colors on the model.
I’m assuming once I get a good primer layer on my resin kit, I’m good to go with the paints I already have. Is that a bad assumption? Do I need to buy a whole new set of paints for resin painting?
Many, many thanks!
-RAO
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Re: Resin Kits -- Recommend a Good Primer?
Answer The First: Just about ANY primer will work fine. It's more about preparing the resin surface for paint. Wash the resin parts in warm water and a mild soap (dish), as this will remove the silicone oils, along with any mold release used.. Then spray with your favourite primer. *I* personally prefer a sandable scratch filling automotive etching primer. It's cheap, available just about everywhere, and does a nice job of leveling out.
Answer The Second: No.
Answer The Second: No.
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It's just called "Primer" from Canadian Tire. It's oxide red. I think it might also come in grey (used to). But I find that the grey doesn't cover very well.TazMan2000 wrote:That automotive etching primer...do you have a brand name that works for you?
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Cleaning the parts thoroughly is half the job. And beyond that, any acrylic primer (automotive stuff is good, DupliColor great and the white Tamiya primer excellent, but expensive) will do. I do not recommend spray filler, though, it tends (from my experience) to react with resin and the remaining softeners. Rather apply two thin coats of primer and wet sand them.
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[quote="DaveVan"]I keep ALL DupliColor primer, fillers and sealers on hand. Been using them for 20 years. I really like the gray sealer best if a fill is not needed. Very thin but excellent coverage. I get them locally at Magic Mart but when they are out.....Amazon.[/quote]
Thanks for the advice; is this the primer you recommended?
http://www.amazon.com/Dupli-Color-DAP16 ... lor+primer
I'm looking at a lot of primers and note most of them say they are designed for "wood, metal, fiberglass" - does this mean they are okay for resin kits too?
Thanks!
-RAO
Thanks for the advice; is this the primer you recommended?
http://www.amazon.com/Dupli-Color-DAP16 ... lor+primer
I'm looking at a lot of primers and note most of them say they are designed for "wood, metal, fiberglass" - does this mean they are okay for resin kits too?
Thanks!
-RAO
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Re: Resin Kits -- Recommend a Good Primer?
Johnnycrash wrote:Answer The First: Just about ANY primer will work fine. It's more about preparing the resin surface for paint. Wash the resin parts in warm water and a mild soap (dish), as this will remove the silicone oils, along with any mold release used.. Then spray with your favourite primer. *I* personally prefer a sandable scratch filling automotive etching primer. It's cheap, available just about everywhere, and does a nice job of leveling out.
Answer The Second: No.
KennyFamily Feud wrote:Good answer!...clap...clap...clap...Good answer!
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Re: Resin Kits -- Recommend a Good Primer?
Totally agree! Amen!Lt. Z0mBe wrote:Johnnycrash wrote:Answer The First: Just about ANY primer will work fine. It's more about preparing the resin surface for paint. Wash the resin parts in warm water and a mild soap (dish), as this will remove the silicone oils, along with any mold release used.. Then spray with your favourite primer. *I* personally prefer a sandable scratch filling automotive etching primer. It's cheap, available just about everywhere, and does a nice job of leveling out.
Answer The Second: No.KennyFamily Feud wrote:Good answer!...clap...clap...clap...Good answer!
I use this almost exclusively on resin. I thin it about 65% thinner to paint and blow it through my airbrush. 95% of all the kits I build are resin.
http://hobbywave.com/modeling_supplies/ ... rimer.html
http://hobbywave.com/modeling_supplies/ ... rimer.html
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I pretty much use gray sandable acrylic auto primer on my builds. Sometimes, depending on whether I want "pre-shading" underneath, I use black.
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I have found that most rattle can primers except Mr.Color and Tamiya fill too much detail for most builds.Lonewolf wrote:I pretty much use gray sandable acrylic auto primer on my builds. Sometimes, depending on whether I want "pre-shading" underneath, I use black.
You really cannot beat the airbrush primers for an accurate scale finish.
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I'm liking the Vallejo Surface Primer myself. Doesn't gunk up the airbrush and leaves the details super crisp.Blappy wrote:I have found that most rattle can primers except Mr.Color and Tamiya fill too much detail for most builds.Lonewolf wrote:I pretty much use gray sandable acrylic auto primer on my builds. Sometimes, depending on whether I want "pre-shading" underneath, I use black.
You really cannot beat the airbrush primers for an accurate scale finish.
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Sorry I did not see your Q.....redapplesonly wrote:Thanks for the advice; is this the primer you recommended?DaveVan wrote:I keep ALL DupliColor primer, fillers and sealers on hand. Been using them for 20 years. I really like the gray sealer best if a fill is not needed. Very thin but excellent coverage. I get them locally at Magic Mart but when they are out.....Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Dupli-Color-DAP16 ... lor+primer
I'm looking at a lot of primers and note most of them say they are designed for "wood, metal, fiberglass" - does this mean they are okay for resin kits too?
Thanks!
-RAO
My favorite is #1699 Sealer.....but I use all of them. depends if I need filler or not.
People uses primer for two reasons...
1) even the surface to find imperfections
2) anchor the paint
OK, I started modeling very long ago when you just painted (or not!) your models so I never used primers. Personally I think it's just an unnecessary product just to make people spend a bit more money.
But anyway, to even the surface to see and correct problems (seams, holes, etc) I just paint my models in a light grey with the regular paint I use. Now for the anchoring of the paint, you really won't need it if you use enamels or strong acrylics such as Tamiya. Cannot tell about lacquer because I never worked with it.
1) even the surface to find imperfections
2) anchor the paint
OK, I started modeling very long ago when you just painted (or not!) your models so I never used primers. Personally I think it's just an unnecessary product just to make people spend a bit more money.
But anyway, to even the surface to see and correct problems (seams, holes, etc) I just paint my models in a light grey with the regular paint I use. Now for the anchoring of the paint, you really won't need it if you use enamels or strong acrylics such as Tamiya. Cannot tell about lacquer because I never worked with it.
The proofs in the puddin! Lets see some pictures of your builds.NCC1966 wrote:I forgot to mention that I don't build only plastic kits. I build and paint also resin figures from e2046 and I proceed exactly the same way. I didn't have any problem to the date.
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- Stephen Hawking, 2011
The Blaposphere
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Here it is two of them. Will find pics of others and upload later...Blappy wrote:The proofs in the puddin! Lets see some pictures of your builds.NCC1966 wrote:I forgot to mention that I don't build only plastic kits. I build and paint also resin figures from e2046 and I proceed exactly the same way. I didn't have any problem to the date.
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