Pine-Sol and Simple Green

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:13 pm

When using Pine-Sol or Simple Greem for removing paint, can water be added to them without effecting their ability to remove paint?

macfrank · Post by **macfrank** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:18 pm

irishtrek wrote:When using Pine-Sol or Simple Greem for removing paint, can water be added to them without effecting their ability to remove paint?

Regular Pine-Sol can soften styrene; is the effect reduced by adding water? I don't know... but I wouldn't want to find out.

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:13 pm

Some body on here said that Pine-Sol with lemon scent has something in it that softens styrene, but regular Pine-sol won't harm styrene.

LuiS_42 · Post by **LuiS_42** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:09 pm

just go for something safer like Easy-off or Engine Degreaser like Castrol Super clean. you'll get a lot more sleep

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:41 pm

I will not use something like easy-off, sounds way too messy, as well as too much of a hassle to work with.

Post by **TER-OR** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:16 pm

Easy-off is fine, do it with plenty of ventillation and in a tub or something to contain the muck.

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:10 am

Like I said I WILL NOT USE EASY-OFF.
As for why not
1) I live in an apartment and to deal with any mess/clean up afterward would be to much hassle and then there's the weather this time of year and I would rather strip paint indoors if I can.
2) I would prefer to use something for striping paint that can be used more than once, with something like Easy-Off it can only be used one time and to use it would cost more money down the line because every time I would have to strip paint I would have to get another can and right now I have at least 3 models that I want to repaint.

macfrank · Post by **macfrank** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:37 pm

irishtrek wrote:...

2) I would prefer to use something for striping paint that can be used more than once, with something like Easy-Off it can only be used one time and to use it would cost more money down the line because every time I would have to strip paint I would have to get another can and right now I have at least 3 models that I want to repaint.

Use acrylics. Most are easy to remove with alcohol, or other inexpensive/non-stinky solvents.

Jonas Calhoun · Post by **Jonas Calhoun** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:24 pm

As to the answer of the original question, I've just used undiluted simple green...it seems to work, but depending on the paint it might take a while. Doesn't harm styrene, either.

I wouldn't dilute it with water, it'll only make it take longer. If you are worried about running out, I just keep a plastic container full of the stuff, and drop in new things every now and then (mostly paint cups from my airbrush). When it stops being effective, I dump it out...One tubful lasts me about 6 months.

Dan

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:38 pm

I'm talking about removieng spray paint, as for brush paints I've been using acrylic paints for about 10 years now, mainly ones you get at a craft store and a few of those are a decent match for MM paints.

Jonas Calhoun · Post by **Jonas Calhoun** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:09 pm

I guess I meant even more specific than that. I've got MM enamels that simple green eats through with no problem. Except white. Same story with acrylics--not problem for any color, except one green that I have--I have to scrub it with a toothbrush. Haven't tried any spray paints.

But anyway, just try it--the only risk you have is time.

Dan

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:19 am

What effect does Pine-sol or Simple green have on resin? The larger pieces I intend to soaak in clear Rubbermaid tub and those are resin I do believe.

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:05 am

The enamel paints I want to remove are, Testors and Krylon, as well as Plasti-Kote laquer. 3 of the models were painted about 9 years ago so the paint is pretty much cured. Any body ever use Dot 3 brake cleaner?

There should be a sticky here for removing paint, because when I looked around on Starship Modeler every thing on removing paint is scattered and not very conclusive or infomative,I think those are the terms I'm looking for.

Lonewolf · Post by **Lonewolf** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:39 am

This was under another thread here in the Finishing forum.

http://www.bonediggers.com/1-3/strip/strip.html

TB2 · Post by **TB2** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:34 am

I've never had a problem with Pine Sol softening styrene. I don't leave parts in for longer than a few hours and it seems to remove 95-100% of the paint. What remains can be taken care of with a little Easy Off. Very little mess. I keep the Pine Sol in a container and have re-used it for years.
Suggest trying the Pine Sol on a spare part if possible but I don't expect you'd have a problem.

Jonas Calhoun · Post by **Jonas Calhoun** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:48 pm

I don't know about resin, unfortunately. Do you have a piece of sprue or something to try? I'd bet with the different types of resins that things will react differently--so it's best to try and a spare part if possible.

That link that was posted above is a good one, unfortunately it doesn't cover resin either.

This would be a good time for you to write a quick and dirty article if you were so inclined...get a stopwatch and a couple of different products...

Dan

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:17 pm

I forgot toe mention all my kits are styrene, not resin, sorry about that.

Jonas Calhoun · Post by **Jonas Calhoun** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:42 pm

OK--just a few posts up you mentioned resin.

Anyway, I've left styrene in Simple Green for several days, and not had any problems...I've heard horror stories of Pine Sol after about a day...

Dan

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:01 am

Jonas Calhoun wrote:OK--just a few posts up you mentioned resin.

Anyway, I've left styrene in Simple Green for several days, and not had any problems...I've heard horror stories of Pine Sol after about a day...

Dan

I was refering to the Rubbermaid tubs.
Anyway I bought a bottle of Pine-Sol regular today and after puting 2 pieces painted with laquer about a half hour later the paint was starting to lift off. then about 2 hours later I put a couple of pieces painted with an enamel, it took a little longer but the enamel started to lift off also.
Of all the pieces in the tub 1 was painted back this past summer while the others were painted several years ago. Haven't yet removed any pieces ,probably do that tommorow.

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:29 pm

Removed the pieces today and cleaned them, the only after effect at this time is the plastic has a slight sticky feel to it and it also feels a bit soft, but when I scrapemy finger nail across the plastic there is no scratch marks. The one piece that was painted with a laquer over enamel has a cracked texture to it , not sure what to make of that.
And I still say there should be a sticky thread on removing paint.

irishtrek · Post by **irishtrek** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:13 pm

Just want to thank every one who responded to this thread. The moderators can lock it out if they like considering it served its purpose or they can just let it disappear into cyber oblivion. Did I spell all that right?

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