brushing and sealing pen ink?

Digger1 · Post by **Digger1** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:26 pm

First, is it possible to paint with squeezed out ball-point pen ink?

Also, will the ink dry enough to allow one to clear-coat it?

Post by **TER-OR** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:33 pm

You can buy ink at any art supply store. Real ink which you can brush, dilute, disperse in Future, or water etc. Don't futz with the ballpoint pens. That ink has solvents in it which keep it liquid until it hits the paper and sits for a while.

You can also buy disposable drafting pens. Micron is a good brand.

Antenociti · Post by **Antenociti** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:27 am

Yeah Micron are very good.

mech · Post by **mech** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:20 am

Be careful with what ink you use. My experience has been, unfortunately, not good. The ink went on very well. even gloss coated ok. Upon application of the dull coat, it ran and smudged and turned a lighter color than what it had started out as. Overall effect....bad.

Me upon finding said results in morning ---------->

This effect was slow in the making, while wet the ink looked fine, it was as it dried overnight that it morphed into the mess i found.

j

Post by **TER-OR** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:06 am

Yeah, you want to look for permanent, waterproof ink when you buy a drafting pen. THat's why I mentioned Micron. There are others, too. The ink can usually be removed with alcohol when dry, if you need.

TREKKRIFFIC · Post by **TREKKRIFFIC** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:22 pm

You should try gel ink pens available in many colors at any art or crafts store. They work great for weathering when smudged with a microbrush or cotton swab. Also great for windows or external lights. Allow a few minutes for the ink to dry and spray with lacquer. Never ran into a problem myself. If the ink is running, you may want to apply lighter spray coats.

Romulan Spy · Post by **Romulan Spy** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:03 pm

Hobby Lobby sells small bottles of India ink; they frequently run 1/2 or 1/3 off sales on artists' paints and bottled inks. I airbrush brown and black ink to simulate exhaust stains and general griminess.

Digger1 · Post by **Digger1** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:08 pm

Let's say I wanted to use ball-point pen ink because of an effect I'd be able to get with it. How would I go about it?

mightymax · Post by **mightymax** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:45 am

jsnmech18 wrote:Be careful with what ink you use. My experience has been, unfortunately, not good. The ink went on very well. even gloss coated ok. Upon application of the dull coat, it ran and smudged and turned a lighter color than what it had started out as. Overall effect....bad.

Me upon finding said results in morning ---------->
This effect was slow in the making, while wet the ink looked fine, it was as it dried overnight that it morphed into the mess i found.

j

Did you use Testors Dullcote by chance?
I learned the hard way after making some decals with drafting ink.
Testors Dullcote being a Laquer based product just acts like a harsh solvent on the glue, thus making it run/dissolve.

I would use an acrylic gloss/dullcote and test it out first.

Then I wold still mist on very light coats until I was satisfied I could shoot a heavier final coat.

Cheers,
Max Bryant

mech · Post by **mech** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:32 pm

mightymax wrote:
Did you use Testors Dullcote by chance?
I learned the hard way after making some decals with drafting ink.
Testors Dullcote being a Laquer based product just acts like a harsh solvent on the glue, thus making it run/dissolve.

I would use an acrylic gloss/dullcote and test it out first.

Then I wold still mist on very light coats until I was satisfied I could shoot a heavier final coat.

Cheers,
Max Bryant

That is correct sir. I have learned that leason well. I thought it would be okay seeing how the model had been oversprayed with gloss coats prior to the application of the dull. OOOPPPS.
There was much nashing of teeth, women were crying in the streets at the strife this had caused me.

However. I have "fiddled" with different inks, and stages of paint and seem to be okay now.

Thanks for the info though. Acrylic it is. (that was the first change I made.)

j